Drum Mode external trigger

AntropicM

What’s the issue?

For drum-type tracks, all 16 piano roll lanes are set up as follows (see photo): the first eight lanes use four MIDI channels; the remaining eight lanes all use the same MIDI channel.

When I trigger drums from an external device routed through Reliq, other lanes sound as well. I assume that’s because those lanes are mapped to the same note numbers, even though they’re on different MIDI channels.

Please describe what you expected to happen and what actually happened.

How to reproduce

Describe the steps to make it happen reliably.

System info (if relevant)

Rlx version: e.g. 1.1.0
Connected devices: e.g. Octatrack
DAW or software used: e.g. Ableton Live 11
Platform: Mac / Windows / Linux / Standalone

Screenshots or videos (if applicable)

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Kyriakos-Reliq

Hi @AntropicM , Thanks for flagging this. It looks like the attached picture didn’t come through.

We tried to reproduce the issue based on your description as follows:

We set up a drum track with Sound 1 / KICK assigned to C1 on MIDI channel 10, and Sound 2 / SNARE also assigned to C1, but on MIDI channel 11. Then we used an external controller routed through Reliq to trigger those notes.

In that test, pressing C1 on the external keyboard, corresponding to Sound 1 / KICK of the drum track, triggered only the KICK at C1, Ch. 10. Pressing C#1 correctly triggered the second sound at C1, Ch. 11.

We’ll keep looking into it, but if you can share the picture again or provide a bit more detail about the exact routing/input setup, that would help us speed up the investigation.

AntropicM

I'll try to reproduce it and get back to you.

AntropicM

I had to change my setup because Reliq isn’t stable when clocked through external MIDI. That forced me to use the MIDI In and Out for notes and triggers, as I’m now using U-Sync for clock. When sending drum triggers to Reliq from an external device, Reliq takes all notes and spreads them across more MIDI channels in Drum Mode even though I am only sending on MIDI channel 4. I’ll send the video via WeTransfer, as it won’t fit here.

Kyriakos-Reliq

Hi @AntropicM,

Thanks for the update.

Regarding external MIDI clock: this is something to keep in mind with Reliq. Reliq runs at a much higher internal timing resolution, standard MIDI clock from some devices can be less reliable when used as the master clock. As mentioned in the manual, for tight sync we generally recommend using U-SYNC or letting Reliq act as the clock master.

Regarding the Drum Mode behavior: we’ll keep an eye out for the video. That will be he best way for us to understand exactly what is happening in your setup and try to reproduce it properly on our side.

Feel free to send your Reliq project together with the video too. We’ll take a deeper look as soon as we have them.

AntropicM

Kyriakos-Reliq

I use the InnerClock GridLock 2 as the master clock— that's a vert reliable master clock. All other sequencers in the studio are working much better then on their internal clock.

I sent a video to robot@reliq-instruments.com. Unfortunately, I cannot send the project, as I already opened a topic about the transfer feature failing to connect to Reliq through the Updater.

Michele_Reliq

Hi @AntropicM ,
thanks for sending the video!
The setup you showed is quite complex, would it be possible to use just USB-MIDI to illustrate the problem more easily?

Maybe I have another clarification that could help you:
Drum tracks on Reliq listen to the one Input MIDI channel specified on the Track Settings panel (labeled INPUT). The whole kit of that track listens to the same channel.
The Drum kit on Reliq has a fixed mapping in terms of what it listens to: From C1 (36) till D#2 (51).
Changing the MIDI NOTE and the MIDI CH OUT parameters in the DRUM MODE SETUP changes only what Reliq sends out, not what it listens to.
I hope this helps!

AntropicM

Hello. Thank you for clarifying. I must have missed it in the manual.

Much appreciated.